Dukes aren't young and handsome and these ladies lived around animals....they saw breeding. Many have dubbed Bridgerton the next hit show to "colorblind cast," but showrunner Chris Van Dusen doesn't agree with that terminology. Madragana, herself, probably wasn't of Sub-Saharan African descent. Discussion of the show Bridgerton on Netflix. Other cast members include Golda Rosheuvel as Queen Charlotte and Adjoa Andoh as the Dowager Lady Danbury, with Jonathan Bailey, Luke Newton and … The first season of “Bridgerton” featured several Black characters in its ensemble cast, including Regé-Jean Page as the main character Simon Basset and Golda Rosheuvel as Queen Charlotte. "Bridgerton" Season 2 has not been confirmed yet by Netflix, but the cast has already been hinting at what could happen in another season of the Shonda Rhimes period drama. A great example is the Cleopatra ethnicity. And it could do better. Discussion of the show Bridgerton on Netflix. Daphne is much less sympathetic as a fallen Diamond of the First Water once recognized by the queen than she was as “the girl next door” in the book. There is no debate, and no credible historian would ever suggest Queen Charlotte had an amount of African ancestry anywhere near enough to be visible or to be considered 'Black' in modern terms. Does it even matter? When in actuality - she was Macedonian and Greek. In this case, how could one queen possibly cause a bunch of 19th century Europeans not to be incredibly racist? We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. The presence of black characters who are not slaves or servants bothers you? Maybe we shouldnt expect reality from a romance novel. Christmas … Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The vast majority of white Americans almost certainly have significantly more Sub-Saharan ancestry than Charlotte did. There’s only about four POCs characters with speaking lines. And it could do better. The historical reasoning to me is rather weak. Bridgerton is pretty deliberate about a lot of what it is doing. I wondered about these things too. Not every wide eyed debutante gets a Duke. It can be an alternate history just stop explaining it. I'm really hoping for a person of color for all the people opposite the Bridgerton siblings myself. I did not liked the Queen being black at first,but after watching the show It did not even mattered. Jamaicans aren't the same as Nigerians who aren't the same as Somalis. We exist, get over it. This story has important details about the "Bridgerton" books that may also spoil the Netflix series. It's black washing history, this goes both ways, got my way? Don't be such an idiot. I counted one time and I think through one line she had 1 pair of great-great-grandparents, where normal people have 16. If it was a show like The Crown then I’d see the criticism but it’s not. I don't really get why people who hate this kind of stuff do not simply ignore the show. It is part of the show's identity..It is a fictional story after all. The series features a mixed cast of white and Black actors in prominent roles. So glad to see an Indian on screen that wasn't a cab driver or nerdy programmer. I do agree things like this do become problematic as people tend to believe fiction more than fact. Each book in this eight book historical romance series features a member of the Bridgerton family. They didn’t want to say it was a color-blind casting but the alternative explanation is weak in my opinion. It's actually really interesting anthropologically - peerless ruling dynasties tend to either opt for harems or for incest. But in Bridgerton, Queen Charlotte is resplendent in silks and towering wigs, and she is unmistakably Black. Netflix's latest show du jour has pulled in millions of viewers, but its cast has left fans unable to decide whether they love it or hate it. It’s an exaggerated fairytale that is loosely basing the setting on a historical time and place. I don't get it. It doesn't matter what colour people are. I mean, personally, I would have preferred colour-blind casting (maybe with the exception of families, to prevent people from getting confused), just in the sense of, 'we aren't going to try to explain this' - I wouldn't mind if they set out with a diverse cast in mind. Premiered Dec 25, 2020. One chronicler writing two centuries after her death described her as a 'Moor' - which in context probably would have meant North African (in modern terms, Arab). Press J to jump to the feed. Romance, gossip and scandal. I don't think OP is saying that? It's historical revisionism and really really farfetched historical revisionism at that. Okay Charlotte lifted them all up but now this society is somehow just... not racist at all? Again, the casting choice in the show doesn't bother me, I just would have preferred they not purposefully enflame a ridiculous theory. If it was a more serious show that was taking pains for historical accuracy, it would be a bit jarring, but it's fine for this. We challenged the cast of Bridgerton to play a jolly good game of ‘Guess the Regency Slang’ with us in this interview. Everything You Need to Know About Bridgerton Before You WatchBridgerton arrives on Netflix on Christmas Day and it's well worth a binge. It is (very) loosely based on our history but it is from a different universe where such characters could have existed. The Netflix period piece "Bridgerton" offers viewers a glimpse at what early 1800s England could have looked like if Black people were in power. Bridgerton is pretty deliberate about a lot of what it is doing. Same with one of the men Daphne dances with and he has a line as well. But not the inaccurate music, hair, or clothes? “Bridgerton” is not Rhimes’s first dalliance with a multiracial cast in a British period drama. In an AU, there’s no limit to a what’s possible and what’s not. Absolutely. Of course correct me if I'm wrong, OP. Press J to jump to the feed. Are they going to stop colonizing? I’m adoring it all without their ‘explanation’. Does he just really like tea and country gardens? The historical reasoning to me is rather weak. You just can't mess with Bridgerton's success. It makes no sense that they would play an instrumental version of Thank U, Next either and if they did in a documentary it would be right to criticize. Note: This Bridgerton article contains no book or series plot spoilers. Daphne’s main trait is that all the guys basically friendzone her because she’s fun and nice but not enticing to them as a romantic prospect. Lazy is stuff like characters not wearing gloves at balls in Jane Austen adaptations (examples like Pride and Prejudice or Emma.). You'd be losing your mind if a show had a white MLK. I always liked that about her and it was one of the few traits that made her somewhat unique compared to other wallflower tropes. I bet that's fine.. right. I need more explanation!! The Ptolemy's make the Habsburgs, and even the Targarygens from Game of Thrones, look wholesome. Bridgerton has been praised as a racially diverse show set in the Regency era, because having Black people in a big budget production period show—or film—about England before the … That being said, Rege-Jean and Adjoa are simply perfect in their roles. Premiered Dec 25 This show is based on the Bridgerton book series by Julia Quinn. I love the inclusivity and Apparently it matters to u as well so this comment of yours is contradictive in nature so why don't you get over it. yeah ik it's not a doc, but it just shows they put zero effort in making it even slightly historically accurate, A good comparison is A Knight's Tale--it's not aiming for documentary-style period-piece stuff, and honestly a lot of 'historical' TV and movies miss the mark with regards to accuracy in several respects, already. Renewed for Season 2! It’s pretty lame. It's a bit like making an apocalypse film where the Earth suddenly does into a new ice Age and saying 'we were inspired by the scientific debate around climate change' instead of 'we wanted to make a dumb disaster movie' - the meta is itself a problem. I'm glad this is moving in a better direction. Why are so many of the aristocratic characters in this show black? On the main point though, the showrunners could easily be saying 'we were inspired by a myth/debunked theory about Queen Charlotte' instead of 'there is historical debate around whether Queen Charlotte was Black'. Cast Indian actors and East Asian actors and Latinx actors. It's forced diversity and a blatant lie. Bridgerton has set an unprecedented tone that TV casting should be colourblind (to a certain extent), and will no doubt inspire future productions to adopt the same approach. This whole genra of historical fictions is called Alternative Universe(AU). I found the addition of the queen to be unnecessary. Others are narrow minded but here you are calling out WHITE people getting upset? Because it's fiction. 12 votes, 26 comments. I mean I understand PC culture is a big thing but that's just historically incorrect, I know this isn't a documentary but it does claim to be a historical piece, and that just pulls me out of the story.. it makes no sense, especially the queen lol. In 1813, the Prince Regent had more sway, and anyways, his mother could barely speak English. You don't need to explain everything. This show is based on the Bridgerton book series by Julia Quinn. what makes you think I'm white? Really, I have wholeheartedly thrown myself into everything in the show because I view it as Alt-History. Each book in this eight book historical romance series features a member of the Bridgerton family. It is not a documentary or even focused on history. My problem is that the producers and actors are presenting this as historically plausible when it just isn't, and in the process furthering bizarre Afrocentrist historical crackpot theories that the entirety of European nobility until relatively recently was Black. ♂️♂️♂️. 'Bridgerton': How accurate is Netflix's Shondaland drama and the depiction of Black people in 19th-century London? unless I know that in-universe they aren't going to try to explain it. This is a FICTIONAL Queen Charlotte. Bridgerton Season 2 Cast Bridgerton Season 1 starred big names and all the actors played their part well. Bridgerton is an American streaming television period drama series created by Chris Van Dusen and produced by Shonda Rhimes. Lazy is stuff like characters not wearing gloves at balls in Jane Austen adaptations (examples like Pride and Prejudice or Emma.) Newcomer Charithra Chandran is thought to have landed the role of Edwina in the hotly anticipated new series, which will be based on the second book in Julia Quinn's romance series The Viscount Who Loved Me . Ok.. i can't wait for Black Panter to cast a white actor. I only know because I'm Indian and I was excited to see it because it never happens. "Bridgerton" star Nicola Coughlan celebrated the show's huge debut and hit back at people who criticized its diverse cast. She would never have been the social matriarch the show makes her out to be. This thread has been locked by the moderators of r/BridgertonNetflix, More posts from the BridgertonNetflix community. Most actors from season 1 will be reprising their roles in season 2. At the same time also introducing a significant number of, culturally indistinguishable, black nobility within a generation? So yea, my mom was watching this show and I caught a few glimpses on it, and I noticed that there are a lot of black people … Just to throw this in as well. Also, were they from anywhere in particular? I can't turn off that part of my brain that goes 'how did a Xhosa man end up in 14th century Japan?' But even if she was, if there are 500 years between Madragana and Charlotte, and you assume a generation every 25 years, that would make Charlotte 1,048,576th Black, or in other terms, 0.000095%. Nicola Coughlan, who portrays Penelope Featherington on “Bridgerton,” recently shut down critics who had something to say about the show’s diverse casting in a period piece. Why would a Prussian Prince cross half a continent to find a match far below his station in Britain, when there would be dozens of more suitable matches closer to home? First, the purported 'Black' ancestor of Charlotte of Mechlenburg-Strelitz was called Madragana, born around 1230 and mistress to Alfonso III of Portugal. We can only watch and Bridgerton is more than just a show – it’s the whole world for its fans. Cmon. Because the Black British population in the early 19th century would have been small, in the low 1000s, and overwhelmingly male. A few years ago Shondaland produced another historical romance mystery show called Still Star Crossed, it was a sequel to Romeo and Juliet based on a YA book, which imo handled the colour blind casting way better. I love seeing a diverse cast, but ultimately Bridgerton isn’t as diverse as it thinks it is. Renewed for Season 2! Bridgerton, whose massive wave of popularity is showing no signs of subsiding, is now Netflix’s biggest series ever by a wide margin.It pushed down to … lol I never said anything you're implying, black people are just not part of the English aristocracy that's all. I think it's better to just say it's a fantasy world where everyone is equeal than giving a weak explenation, like the one we got in Bridgerton, that brings up more question than it answears. Exactly - popular culture moves the goal posts, so people end up believing things that they wouldn't have even considered otherwise. I think they can totally get a black or Asian or Hispanic Kate for next season!
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